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mmcirvin ([personal profile] mmcirvin) wrote2003-12-02 07:00 pm

more dialect differences, including the smoking gun

The phrase "tree lawn" appears to be an intact Northern Ohio expression in my current idiolect.

The synonyms for "crayfish" show the sharpest three-way North-Midland-South regional division I've seen ("crayfish" and "crawdad" both sound OK to me). But the "roll"/"TP" distinction neatly explains a recent goofy pun on Homestar Runner. (Not that it was hard to get, but "roll the house" sounded a bit odd to me; its dominance begins a couple hundred miles south of my old stomping grounds, but the Homestar Runner guys live in, I think, Georgia, which is probably also the reason for The Cheat's Halloween costume).

And everything has outliers all over the country, because of people like me who have moved around. I say "rotary" as a proud badge of my adopted homeland.

This question about public rail systems is dumb because they didn't distinguish between generic terms and specific ones, as in other questions. The subway is the T here, but it certainly isn't in DC. On the other hand, this similar one about "the City" is fascinating: your local city might be the City in one place or another, but New York is THE City.
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (quiet)

[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2003-12-03 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, here's what i found:
You've had chocolate milk made with milk and chocolate syrup? Coffee milk is the same thing but with coffee syrup. Finish your lunch with a Coffee Cabinet (a coffee flavored milk shake). The main ingredient of this shake is "coffee milk," first introduced to Rhode Islanders in the early 1920's. Coffee milk became so popular in Rhode Island that in 1993 the Rhode Island state legislature voted coffee milk as the official state drink. It's called a "Cabinet" because its originator kept his blender in a "kitchen cabinet."

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Simply add 2 tablespoons of coffee syrup to 8 ounces of hot or cold milk. If you add ice cream to coffee milk then you are drinking a "coffee cabinet" or in outsider's terms a coffee milk frappe.
Let me just say that i find this all an incredible offense to the English language.

[identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com 2003-12-03 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. Coffee milk has always seemed quite yucky to me. Ew.

Such a drink becomes a Rhode Island meal with the addition of a Del's and some pizza strips.

[identity profile] kerri9494.livejournal.com 2003-12-03 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, now you're just trolling me, right?

Plorkwort is the rightest so far.

Milkshake = milk and syrup (Eclipse or, for the newbies, Autocrat, in either coffee, strawberry, or vanilla -- I don't think either company makes a chocolate syrup...we always used Bosco).
Cabinet = milk and syrup and ice cream (coffee is the most popular).
Frappe = something those people in Massachusetts make, which is kinda like a cabinet, but I was never sure if they added syrup or not.
Awful Awful = just like a cabinet, only made with unflavored ice milk and lots of syrup, and only available at Newport Creamery.
Fribble = what those Massachusetts people call an Awful Awful, from that RIP OFF of Newport Creamery called Friendly's. And does FRIENDLY'S give you a free one if you drink three in a row? I THINK NOT. Doesn't sound too friendly to me.

YMMV.

[identity profile] chicken-cem.livejournal.com 2003-12-03 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
More and more confused!

[identity profile] samantha2074.livejournal.com 2003-12-03 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure the English language has enough dignity to be offended.
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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2003-12-03 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
True... that whore has left the barn, so to speak.