Plan B and the moment of conception
Aug. 28th, 2006 11:51 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I should put my own biases on the table here: Personally, I believe, for involved, more or less consequentialist reasons, that abortion should be legal, free of statutory encumbrances, and easy to get under all circumstances, up to the moment of birth. But I know that this isn't a popular position in America, even among people who generally support reproductive rights; I recognize that it is a difficult issue and I can sympathize with people who have moral qualms about late abortions.
Objections to abortion are sometimes phrased in terms of slippery slopes: if you support abortion under circumstance X then it's not a big stretch to support infanticide under circumstance Y, and where should we draw the line? (Most extravagantly, Philip K. Dick once wrote a misogynistic short story in which abortion had been extended to an option to kill your children up to the point where they learn algebra.)
In practice, though, nobody of consequence is advocating infanticide, and the true political slippery slope in the US slips the other way. Anti-abortion activists are turning their attention to bans and restrictions on various methods of contraception. This is logically perverse even from a hardline anti-abortion point of view, since a likely consequence of restricting contraception is to increase the rate of abortion, but it's happening.
The emergency contraceptive known as Plan B has at long last been approved for over-the-counter dispensation, which is important since time is of the essence when taking it. Unfortunately there are still a lot of restrictions—it can't be given over the counter to minors, andI don't think it's going to be distributed at ordinary pharmacies (mild correction: the FDA says that it will be distributed at pharmacies, but not at stores lacking a pharmacist, so the "pharmacists' rights" dodge to restrict it will probably still be a problem). Reactions to the decision seem to indicate that people still don't understand what it is or how it works, largely because of a concerted campaign to muddy the issue. News articles regularly fail to counter the impression that it's an abortifacient, which it is not.
PZ Myers explained it all in a well-written article months ago, and some more details appear here: Plan B is a larger dose ofprogesterone (correction) a synthetic hormone that mimics the action of progesterone; it is a substance also used in ordinary birth-control pills. A function of progesterone is to prevent ovulation. If a woman takes it within 72 hours of having sex, Plan B has a chance of preventing an egg from being released by her ovaries, and therefore preventing a zygote from being conceived.
An elevated level of progesterone naturally occurs in a pregnant woman, so it's not fatal to embryos or fetuses; Plan B is distinct from the abortifacient drug RU-486 (mifepristone). I also believe that RU-486 should be legal and easy to get, though it should remain a prescription drug because administering it properly requires medical supervision. But RU-486 is not Plan B, and I think part of what anti-Plan B activists are trying to do is sow confusion on this point.
The manufacturer of Plan B states that it may also cause changes in the endometrial lining that prevent implantation. This is the thin reed upon which any logical anti-abortion argument against Plan B hangs: the possibility that Plan B may actually sometimes prevent implantation of an already-fertilized embryo. Though, technically, abortion is defined as the termination of a pregnancy after implantation, the most doctrinaire of anti-abortion activists believe that a human life with full human rights begins the moment a zygote is conceived, and that doing something to prevent implantation is tantamount to murder.
However, as various comments to those posts, and linked resources, explain, there is no good evidence that Plan B really does prevent implantation, and in fact some evidence that it doesn't. For one thing, implantation typically occurs days later than Plan B's time window of effectiveness. The manufacturer's statement is likely an attempt to cover all bases in case Plan B is someday discovered to prevent implantation, and seems to be based on old theoretical arguments about birth-control pills that are not strongly supported by the evidence.
Besides, as I and many others have said before, more than half of all fertilized zygotes either naturally fail to implant or spontaneously abort afterward. If what you care about is preventing zygote death, Plan B ought to reduce the overall level by preventing conceptions even if it causes an occasional implantation failure. Given this, of course, one can get into delicate moral arguments about accidental vs. intentional implantation failure, God's will (if one believes in that) and the doctrine of double effect. But the important thing to understand is that if Plan B does prevent implantation, this is probably rare enough that it should be regarded as an accidental side effect rather than the drug's primary means of operation. Plan B is not an abortifacient, but a contraceptive that works by preventing ovulation.
Some of the remarks I've heard, though, such as the ones quoted in the comments to Bitch Ph.D.'s post, have clued me in to a realization that something else is going on here: I think people are defining "the moment of conception" not as the moment the sperm goes into the egg, but as the moment the man ejaculates, which can be many hours earlier.
When people say that a human life with full human rights exists from the moment of conception onward, what they often mean is not that this new being exists from the moment the sperm enters the egg. What they often mean is that it exists from the moment the sperm enters the woman. It's a prescientific notion of how babies are made that is built into the way we use the verb "to conceive" in its reproductive sense: "Son, you were conceived to the tune of 'Any Way You Want It' by Journey," etc.
It makes some sense if you realize that, prior to modern genetics, it was sometimes believed that some sort of complete homunculus or life-essence existed in the sperm itself, with the woman providing, so to speak, only the soil in which the seed was grown. Even the word "sperm" means "seed", a misleading analogy since it's the pollen that contains a plant's sperm. But the analogy colors the way we talk about sex and reproduction.
I know that just knowing the correct details of where babies come from is not going to dissuade some people. If your real cultural or religious problem is with dissociating sexual intercourse from reproduction, or with giving a woman the ability to veto a man's reproductive power after he comes inside her, no amount of science is going to change your mind. But I do have some hope that a correct understanding of what's going on will keep some undecided people from getting confused.
Objections to abortion are sometimes phrased in terms of slippery slopes: if you support abortion under circumstance X then it's not a big stretch to support infanticide under circumstance Y, and where should we draw the line? (Most extravagantly, Philip K. Dick once wrote a misogynistic short story in which abortion had been extended to an option to kill your children up to the point where they learn algebra.)
In practice, though, nobody of consequence is advocating infanticide, and the true political slippery slope in the US slips the other way. Anti-abortion activists are turning their attention to bans and restrictions on various methods of contraception. This is logically perverse even from a hardline anti-abortion point of view, since a likely consequence of restricting contraception is to increase the rate of abortion, but it's happening.
The emergency contraceptive known as Plan B has at long last been approved for over-the-counter dispensation, which is important since time is of the essence when taking it. Unfortunately there are still a lot of restrictions—it can't be given over the counter to minors, and
PZ Myers explained it all in a well-written article months ago, and some more details appear here: Plan B is a larger dose of
An elevated level of progesterone naturally occurs in a pregnant woman, so it's not fatal to embryos or fetuses; Plan B is distinct from the abortifacient drug RU-486 (mifepristone). I also believe that RU-486 should be legal and easy to get, though it should remain a prescription drug because administering it properly requires medical supervision. But RU-486 is not Plan B, and I think part of what anti-Plan B activists are trying to do is sow confusion on this point.
The manufacturer of Plan B states that it may also cause changes in the endometrial lining that prevent implantation. This is the thin reed upon which any logical anti-abortion argument against Plan B hangs: the possibility that Plan B may actually sometimes prevent implantation of an already-fertilized embryo. Though, technically, abortion is defined as the termination of a pregnancy after implantation, the most doctrinaire of anti-abortion activists believe that a human life with full human rights begins the moment a zygote is conceived, and that doing something to prevent implantation is tantamount to murder.
However, as various comments to those posts, and linked resources, explain, there is no good evidence that Plan B really does prevent implantation, and in fact some evidence that it doesn't. For one thing, implantation typically occurs days later than Plan B's time window of effectiveness. The manufacturer's statement is likely an attempt to cover all bases in case Plan B is someday discovered to prevent implantation, and seems to be based on old theoretical arguments about birth-control pills that are not strongly supported by the evidence.
Besides, as I and many others have said before, more than half of all fertilized zygotes either naturally fail to implant or spontaneously abort afterward. If what you care about is preventing zygote death, Plan B ought to reduce the overall level by preventing conceptions even if it causes an occasional implantation failure. Given this, of course, one can get into delicate moral arguments about accidental vs. intentional implantation failure, God's will (if one believes in that) and the doctrine of double effect. But the important thing to understand is that if Plan B does prevent implantation, this is probably rare enough that it should be regarded as an accidental side effect rather than the drug's primary means of operation. Plan B is not an abortifacient, but a contraceptive that works by preventing ovulation.
Some of the remarks I've heard, though, such as the ones quoted in the comments to Bitch Ph.D.'s post, have clued me in to a realization that something else is going on here: I think people are defining "the moment of conception" not as the moment the sperm goes into the egg, but as the moment the man ejaculates, which can be many hours earlier.
When people say that a human life with full human rights exists from the moment of conception onward, what they often mean is not that this new being exists from the moment the sperm enters the egg. What they often mean is that it exists from the moment the sperm enters the woman. It's a prescientific notion of how babies are made that is built into the way we use the verb "to conceive" in its reproductive sense: "Son, you were conceived to the tune of 'Any Way You Want It' by Journey," etc.
It makes some sense if you realize that, prior to modern genetics, it was sometimes believed that some sort of complete homunculus or life-essence existed in the sperm itself, with the woman providing, so to speak, only the soil in which the seed was grown. Even the word "sperm" means "seed", a misleading analogy since it's the pollen that contains a plant's sperm. But the analogy colors the way we talk about sex and reproduction.
I know that just knowing the correct details of where babies come from is not going to dissuade some people. If your real cultural or religious problem is with dissociating sexual intercourse from reproduction, or with giving a woman the ability to veto a man's reproductive power after he comes inside her, no amount of science is going to change your mind. But I do have some hope that a correct understanding of what's going on will keep some undecided people from getting confused.
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Date: 2006-08-28 04:46 pm (UTC)That is all.
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Date: 2006-08-28 09:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-28 05:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-28 06:17 pm (UTC)*sigh*
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Date: 2006-08-28 06:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-08-28 06:53 pm (UTC)And Matt, as for the rest of the post, you continue to be my hero.
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Date: 2006-08-28 07:12 pm (UTC)(I discovered earlier that I was born under the sign of Simon and Garfunkel's "Mrs. Robinson", which is awesome.)
Whoa.
Date: 2006-08-28 11:03 pm (UTC)Appropriate
Date: 2006-08-28 11:39 pm (UTC)Well - the man was correct!
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Date: 2006-08-29 12:50 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-08-29 12:19 am (UTC)But I don't think it should be a point of law, because in practice, late-term abortions usually result from wanted pregnancies which have gone very wrong in some way or other: the fetus is severely malformed or the pregnancy has become dangerous to the mother.
It's possible in principle to draft exceptions to work around all these cases, and only cover the vanishingly rare case of elective abortion of relatively viable fetuses late in pregnancy. But in practice that's not what legal late-abortion restrictions tend to be like—you instead get messes like the "partial-birth abortion" ban, which was passed on the basis of dishonest claims of what it was about, banned a particular procedure in a manner that made very little sense, and, by stigmatizing the procedure and discouraging training of physicians, created a chilling effect that makes it hard to use even in situations where the law permits it (e.g. the fetus is dead). Even a sensible ban would apply to so few cases in reality that its bad penumbral effects could outweigh the effect of its direct application.
Given that political situation, I think NARAL-level pro-choice extremism is actually a better policy position to take.
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Date: 2006-08-29 12:21 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-08-29 08:23 pm (UTC)Many people would acknowledge a right to kill innocents to save yourself in the very rare cases where it is necessary, but only when the scales are tilted in that direction. One Siamese twin may be killed to save the other, but only if the outlook otherwise would be even more gloomy. For pregnancy, the scales tilt towards life: no society has ever been decimated by a pregnancy epidemic. So no killing. To suggest that a small danger to oneself justifies killing others is to embrace the morality of the villains of a dozen disaster movies. Even if you could get away with it, it is and always has been the state's role to try to prevent such behavior.
You say it's dangerous to concede that the argument is about when life begins, but it's better than starting an argument you can't win. (Maybe I'm assuming the conclusion here. Well, if after futher consideration you still believe that the pro-choice side of this debate is tenable even after conceding the key point, I wouldn't mind taking the opposite side of the argument once or twice more.) Nonetheless, this is an argument that bland pro-choice debaters slide into almost mechanically: instead of engaging the assertion "A fetus is a human being, and it should have the usual human rights", they stay "on message" with "A woman should be able to control her own body", even though the former statement (if true) trumps the latter. Even the names "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are abbreviations of the same lopsided argument -- it's a kind of verbal jujitsu where the pro-choice side slips its shoulders against the mat and surrenders the three-count without even having to touch its opponent. (Not that I have any better suggestion than "pro-choice" -- the vanilla "abortion rights" is no improvement.)
On the other hand, I thought the discussion how Plan B works, and of the strangeness of the idea that a baby exists even before fertilization occurs (as I understand it, even Catholics don't think the baby exists before fertilization -- it's too bad they oppose birth control also), were well targeted. And I have to admit that I forgot that Plan B wasn't just another trade name for RU-486.
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Date: 2006-08-30 12:04 am (UTC)I think I do agree that if the fetus is granted to be a human being, the bar for morally justifiable killing of the fetus should be set very high. But I still have the fallback position that the state could be doing damage by trying to enforce the distinction, since the really hard-to-justify case that anti-abortion arguments want you to think about (elective abortion of a late-term, healthy pregnancy) is actually fairly rare, and too much meddling can interfere with the treatment of people for whom the abortion is justifiable on medical grounds.
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Date: 2006-08-30 12:33 am (UTC)I suppose what I'm leery of, getting into an argument over when humanity-with-rights begins (not "when life begins", since life doesn't begin anywhere), is that since this isn't entirely a scientific debate over measurable things, it's liable to degenerate into "is not", "is too" with no way of resolving the matter. But people do manage to debate other moral issues that are not entirely scientific, so maybe there's a way forward; staking out positions of the form "no reasonable person could possibly believe this" might be a good place to start.
On the other hand, that was what the anti-abortion side seemed to be doing with the "partial-birth abortion" ban, only they were completely dishonest about it: it was phrased as "no reasonable person could possibly believe that it's OK to start to deliver a viable full-term baby then puncture its skull", but that wasn't what the ban actually banned. Get burned on these issues often enough and it becomes hard to pretend you're having a moral argument in good faith, which I suppose is part of the reason for my own degree of extremism.
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Date: 2006-08-30 04:53 am (UTC)I didn't follow the partial-birth abortion debate very closely, although maybe I should have. I'd readily believe that many from the pro-life crowd engaged in shady and misleading debate tactics. Attempts by some pro-choicers to paint all pro-lifers as misogynists are also very distasteful, of course, as well as coming as close as you'll find to the godawful "How dare those people inconvenience women by trying to save babies' lives!" argument that I keep harping on.
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Date: 2006-08-30 05:12 am (UTC)I think that most people with anti-abortion attitudes are sincerely trying to protect what they think of as babies who are being murdered. I also think that they're often led astray by bad information, sometimes promulgated maliciously. I think that many of the leaders of the movement have a different motivation that is not so much misogynistic per se as just very conservative: they believe that people have essential roles they are born into, that the essential role women are born into is to be wives and mothers, that the sex act has an essential role of making babies and that disturbing this order is wrong.
Philip K. Dick, though, he had some serious woman issues.
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Date: 2006-08-30 05:28 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-09-01 07:16 pm (UTC)Also, a C-section protects the health of two people, while a kidney transplant harms the health of one to benefit another. If a doctor applies the "do no harm" principle on a per-patient basis, believes the fetus to be a grade-A human, and does not believe in euthanasia, then he can perform C-sections, but he cannot ever perform abortions or perform a transplant on an unwilling live donor.
Even the least harm principle offers little to the pro-choice side of the debate. According to Wikipedia, the probability that a C-section will kill the mother is less than 1 in 2500. It's probably higher with a hydrocephalic infant, but still very low. It arguably changes the picture completely to consider quality of life, but counting quality of life in a way that cheapens one compared to another is controversial. (The dogma is that all lives have equal value, but I might guess that the decisions of doctors and parents in Siamese twin separation operations indicate a more nuanced view, with expected lifetime and mental development also being taken into account. As a wild guess, I wouldn't be shocked if such problems have all been resolved outside the court, so it might have established an opinion on the issue.) It changes the picture somewhat to consider nonfatal harms to the mother, but again, setting exchange rates between pain or infirmity and lives is controversial, not only in the exact rate of exchange but even whether the two harms are comparable at all. (Exchange rates of all kinds are set in liability lawsuits, but they are not accepted without modification in other circumstances -- the life of a rich person has more value in civil court, but not in criminal court, and in theory not to the Red Cross during disaster relief either.) So if the mother and fetus are presumed to have equal value, then even a tiny chance of saving the fetus justifies making the attempt.
I doubt many pro-lifers really value fetuses' lives as much as their mothers'. I doubt there's any country on Earth where the doctors generally do. I think there are many more people who might say they value a hydrocephalic fetus as much as a regular person, but really they just think the fetus should have some rights, even if they would never bet one mother's life against two fetuses'. The pro-life platform doesn't exactly accommodate that view, but neither does the pro-choice side, which seems to be based upon the notion that the fetus has no value, or at least none that the legal system should play a part in protecting.
Just to pick on a comment you made elsewhere, any legislation that is passed will be abused by biases parties on both sides, although, come to think of it, I can't blame abortion doctors for "exploiting" blank medical exception clauses in anti-abortion legislation. If the legislators cannot agree to a meaningful (not just "anything greater than zero", which would justify almost all abortions) risk threshold, then there is inadequate support for a real anti-abortion law, so it is only appropriate if they don't get one. (Although if -- as I now get the impression may be the case -- the courts insisted on the presence of medical exceptions, then the laws' internal inconsistency becomes easier to understand.)
IANAL, etc.
The nature of the "discussion"
Date: 2006-08-28 11:32 pm (UTC)"A number of the comments debate what seem to me purely metaphysical questions concerning when life begins, whether five-day embryos should be treated as full-fledged human beings, etc. By "metaphysical" I mean can't be resolved by reference to logic or evidence. They are matters of opinion and endless contestation, strongly influenced by religious views that cannot be verified or refuted (modern religions are careful to avoid proposing falsifiable hypotheses, such as that the world will end on September 1, 2006). I get no nourishment from such debates. I believe that upbringing, temperament, experience, emotion, and certain brute facts determine one's answers to such questions, not truth or falsity..."
My concern is that people, in their fear of social isolation or ostracism, don't want to be labelled fanatics or told that their deeply-held views, in the final analysis, are not much more than a matter of personal taste, so they try and put the cart before the horse. They decide what they want to believe from a moral dimension, and then turn back and selectively interpret existing science or blatantly fabricate and create the pseudoscience necessary to "justify" their views.
I would submit that it's better for the progress of human thinking and winning the public mind to contend with those who admit they dismiss scientific thought (who are largely discounted), than to contend with those who, through magical thinking, strange logic, and confusion of semantics, make an equal claim to the scientific throne and use that ill-gained perceived legitimacy to persuade and undermine the healthy self-skepticism of a rational person.
Re: The nature of the "discussion"
Date: 2006-08-29 12:33 am (UTC)Still, when people make scientific claims that are demonstrably false, such as calling some contraceptive an abortion drug when it's not, I personally feel compelled to call them on it.